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Politesse
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Post by Politesse » Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:11 am

[quote=""Barefoot Bree""]I first picked up his The Drifters - which isn't important except that it led me to his other books. And the one that made the deepest impact on me was The Source, which basically told the story of Judaism itself, from its earliest beginnings as a primitive fertility cult in ancient, ancient prehistoric times, all the way through to the 1960's. Although it was a novel, and the archeological dig site it described was fictional, everything he wrote about does have backing in the real world of archeology.[/quote]

That is my very favorite Michener novel.
"The truth about stories is that's all we are" ~Thomas King

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Post by cnorman18 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:50 am

[quote=""Politesse""]
Barefoot Bree;352702 wrote:I first picked up his The Drifters - which isn't important except that it led me to his other books. And the one that made the deepest impact on me was The Source, which basically told the story of Judaism itself, from its earliest beginnings as a primitive fertility cult in ancient, ancient prehistoric times, all the way through to the 1960's. Although it was a novel, and the archeological dig site it described was fictional, everything he wrote about does have backing in the real world of archeology.
That is my very favorite Michener novel.[/QUOTE]

I loved The Source, which I read long before I converted -- but my own favorite is Texas. I thought I knew the history of my state before I read it; after all, my family first came here when Texas was still a Republic. Boy, did I learn a lot.
"The Torah is true, and some of it may even have happened."
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"Faith is hope, not fact."
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Post by Pierrot » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:13 pm

[quote=""DMB""]Here are some stories from ex-Muslims:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... r-stories/[/quote]

and lots of themhere. I am in awe of the courage of these people, as the threat of violence towards apostates is ever present, even in the West, let alone those unfortunate enough to live in Dar al Islam. It's really heartening.

This is the most beautiful statement of deconversion I have come across, and inspiration to anyone leaving any religion.

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Post by mood2 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:40 pm

This is the most beautiful statement of deconversion I have come across, and inspiration to anyone leaving any religion.
wow. powerful stuff.

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DMB
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Post by DMB » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:37 pm

It is indeed brilliant.

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Post by Shake » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:01 pm

Like so many, if I had to name a single book which most influenced my unbelief, it's the Bible, hands down.
I recently saw a quote in the comments of a YouTube video in which the poster was responding to someone else saying something like the above. He said:
Then you didn't read it. You saw a wall of information. Not spirit.
I countered by pointing out that more than a few Christians take their book as being full of facts and information. If it's just the spirit of the text — and by that, I'm sure he's just referring to the good parts — then why have all of the accompanying belief, ritual, worship, and everything else that comes with it?

He's a lightweight though, now saying I mischaracterized him. Not sure how. We'll see.

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