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Should we put shame on us all? We burden our children. It is said that all parents hurt their children in some way or another. This is true, inadvertently. No sane parent plans to intentionally hurt their children. Except, shamefully, in these enlightened times. We are showing ourselves to be quite ...

[quote=""Roo St. Gallus""] Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic. A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge. Get the quote where I di such. Regards DL I've read enough of Pagels and Rudolph to have more than an inkling of what you are spouting off ...

[quote=""dancer_rnb""] Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic. A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge. Get the quote where I di such. Regards DL I don't believe you can speak for all gnostics, any more than one orthodox christian can speak for ev...

[quote=""Hermit""] Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt This epigram was not attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt until 1987, and no primary source supporting the assertion that she is its author has been found to date....

[quote=""Roo St. Gallus""]Note here: An agnostic is the exact opposite of a Gnostic.

A Gnostic is one who claims to have special knowledge.[/quote]

Get the quote where I di such.

Regards
DL

[quote=""Shake""]I have far more respect for a gnostic Christians as I believe at least they're more honest about the knowledge question. -Shake, the agnostic atheist[/quote] Gnostic is what they called the ancients and the word agnostic means basically the same as Gnostic. I agr...

[quote=""Roo St. Gallus""]So...Greatest. It seems that you are here to proselytize the membership. You certainly seem to think that you are somehow superior to 'regular' Christians because you are 'gnostic'. That seemingly alludes to your 'knowing' something, probably hidden, or ...

[quote=""dancer_rnb""] If you need a life with a purpose to your writing, instead of this waste of time, I can help you. A human without purpose to what he does is not much of a person. Regards DL We determine or own purpose.[/QUOTE] I agree, but we are all guided at different po...

I do not answer stupid questions and I see that you have not yet found a purpose for your time.

Regards
DL

If you need a life with a purpose to your writing, instead of this waste of time, I can help you.

A human without purpose to what he does is not much of a person.

Regards
DL

[quote=""Hermit""] You might want to listen more closely to what is said about liberals and conservatives and their attitudes and which group is more worthy of leading, which is neither as both groups have gone too far into the left and right. Where did those goalposts disappear ...

[quote=""Aupmanyav""]A gnostic Christian also needs to walk a few steps forward to be good.[/quote] I am not sure what that means in practical terms, but yes we do. That is why we jump right in and challenge evil thinking Christians by naming their Yahweh a genocidal son murderin...

[quote=""dancer_rnb""]To some, universalism means eventual reconciliation with god or the trinity, rather than equality among people. Even Satan and the fallen angels according to some. Human equality is a different matter, though we tend to believe in it. Do gnostics reject the ...

[quote=""Hermit""][ Think of how horrible a world we would live in if liberals did not have conservatives to show them where they lack in social manipulation and control.[/quote]Liberals are not hippies or anarchists. They lack in nothing concerning social control. They just exer...

[quote=""dancer_rnb""]Well, some universalists are what I call punishment universalists. they believe in hell as a place of punishment or purification, but not one a being stays in forever. But they believe in the Fall and a need for redemption. This gets back to the problem abou...

[quote=""Hermit""] Your morals are nearly as disgusting as Christians morals. Nearly? How disappointing. I had hoped my morals were on par with those of all Christians. Which troubles me not at all, as long as it is I who gets to line them up against the wall, not the other way a...

[quote=""dancer_rnb""]False. I think Universalist Christians are good. Deluded, but good. And maybe good/evil is an illusion. :p [/quote] That is what Gnostic Christianity is as our views say that God does not need to condemn anyone as he would cure instead of kill and that is wh...

[quote=""Hermit""] The only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian. True or false? False. The only good Christian is a dead Christian.[/QUOTE] So you see the two religions shows as morally equivalent. Ok. Your morals are nearly as disgusting as Christians morals. They, like you, s...

The only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian. True or false? A nutshell view of Gnostic Christianity is expressed in the first two links. The third shows the attitude and result of Christian and Gnostic Christian interaction. I should point out that Gnostic Christianity does not hold to any supern...

[quote=""Shake""]The problem, at least in the States, is it's probably much harder to do once you've given a cult the status of 'religion'. Scientology is definitely a fraudulent organization, but it's been allowed to grow rather powerful and has the financial means to fight back...

[quote=""Roo St. Gallus""]Yeah...Start with the Gnostics; they should know it's coming.[/quote] What does a creed that perpetually seeks knowledge and wisdom have to lie about? It has no need to lie. What lie do you see, if you know anything of that religion? Perhaps you should e...

[quote=""Peanut""]What does "regulate" mean? You can't take a religious body to court for telling blatant lies about the age of the world, or the creation of species, or parthenogenesis. Law-courts are just for obtaining money through deception or misrepresentation. Chu...

[quote=""Aupmanyav""]All religions that take recourse to revelations are frauds.[/quote]

I agree and likely a court would as well.

Regards
DL

[quote=""Rome""]

Politesse;683959 wrote:If they commit fraud, sure.

This.[/QUOTE]

It seems our friend will not answer my reply to her in post 3.
Care to have a go.

Regards
DL

[quote=""Jobar""]In the US, that 'wall of separation between church and state' has the unfortunate effect of protecting all but the most blatant frauds in religious clothing, I think. Jesus is quoted as saying 'Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is...