Secular Café Archive

[quote=""DrZoidberg""]-"Just dedicate your life to the church and give us all your free time and afterwards we'll give you the best thing in the world you could possibly imagine" -"Is it a really fast car?" -"Sure" -"Can I see the car first?&quo...

[quote=""1ICrying""].... but the thing is, God doesn't encourage that stuff -[/quote] But it is actively encouraged by him, according to the bible. How about: "They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open."...

[quote=""subsymbolic""]Oh, and can you remind me of the Swedish word for strawberries and cream?[/quote]

Borgwilanderedberg?

[quote=""DrZoidberg""]So a "hat pin" is a composite word? Or a "stain remover?"[/quote]

Hatpin

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... ish/hatpin

[quote=""1ICrying""]..God himself says in the Bible.....God always gets what he wants...[/quote]

You probably know this already, but stuff like that won't cut much mustard in here because, well, it's probably silly.

[quote=""1ICrying""] I don't recall if 1I has said explicitly whether he's a inerrantist, or not. What's your opinion of the Bible, 1I? is it a work of humanity, full of wisdom, but also full of errors and contradictions- or is it the flawless and infallible Word of God? I have k...

[quote=""justme""]I mean the US has their own bill of rights. Where If any other than the owning country are human rights determined...[/quote] There's the United Nations. [quote=""justme""]...and if this body has determined what rights all people have, why do...

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[quote=""DrZoidberg""]The problem with that one is how do you measure it? If we look at it scientifically, if you just allow people to decide for themselves what gender they consider themselves, then how will you sort that out from... I don't know... trends? The more accurately/o...

What about 'sexual identity' instead of gender? Not perfect, I know (already in use so may cause confusion of a different sort), but it's not going to get confused with 'sex' (and I do think that arguably the biggest issue of usage comes from confusion and conflation). One could even argue that it e...

There's no doubt the existing words cause confusion. As in this headline:

"KIM KARDASHIAN WEST ACCIDENTALLY REVEALS THE GENDER OF HER BABY"

That's her baby that hasn't been born yet.

I could even quibble about the word 'baby' but...that wouldn't help matters.

[quote=""DrZoidberg""]Anybody from anywhere on this planet, thrown back in time to the year 1900 will find a bizarrely alien and unrelatable world. Human cultures have evolved extremely rapidly the last 150 years. That makes it a bit strange to talk about different essential char...

It seems to me that both cultural universalism and cultural relativism have their pros and cons and that one could almost start with either of them as a principle and work, via this or that interpretation or intention, towards justifying almost any conclusion, benign or cruel, fair or unfair. So as ...

[quote=""Koyaanisqatsi""]It doesn’t matter what you would want (or not want). In the general sense, I’m not pointing to any particular individual. The only thing that matters is what the person you might be interacting with wants (or does not want). That’s why all this “whatabout...

I reckon a lot of the explanation is relatively simple, evolved, human, male biology. Ditto for the male aggression that keeps erupting all around the world, in private relationships and international politics. The male 'strategy' is to seed as many eggs as possible. Females are more guarded. They h...

[quote=""BWE""]That's sort of the opposite of how I understand cultural relativism.[/quote]

It confused me too at first but after a bit of googling I think he's using the right term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_relativism

[quote=""Jobar""] Got it in ONE... and Jobar I do believe that the 'intent' of the molester is clearly contained in the act itself! If a person says 'Stop that'... ? Where's the problem with acknowledging that it is an invasion of another's privacy? If a person says 'Stop that', ...

And on a slightly different if related topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-hepLP8J4

I can still see where you're coming from. Empathy is arguably just part of your system's (your) best guess about what's going on in another person (system) and you shouldn't ever blithely assume it's right. It's probably useful in evolutionary terms though, even if flawed. Fwiw, I also tend to think...

[quote=""Ozymandias""]Damn. The last part (that you quote) was the bit I was leading up to with the earlier stuff. I thought I had reasoned my way there quite nicely... I do think it is where we are heading though. That is, the making of no assumptions when we meet people. I am s...

[quote=""Ozymandias""]And so, we must throw away empathy entirely, and instead treat each other with formal dignity unclouded with emotional pseudo-connection, until we are able to have a negotiation about how we should mutually interact.[/quote] I agreed with you (and still do) ...