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Cops suck.

In Cuba, c'est la vie translates phonetically as I see her pussy.

[quote=""Jobar""] What can't be defined and modeled systemically? How about the relation of models to what is being modeled? To paraphrase Lao Tzu, 'The Tao which can be modeled is not the true Tao.'[/QUOTE] Jobar, this is a thought provoking post. I hadn't really thought of the ...

http://www.rossashby.info/journal/volume/index.html

Here ya go. His book introduction to cybernetics is also available free online. It's definitely dated now but it's a fascinating read still.

Also, jay forrester should have been named there. Btw, speaking of cybernetics, for anyone who is interested in reading the notes of w. Ross Ashby, his entire set of notebooks has been published on the site maintained by his estate. Because he indexed them himself, the index links are really good na...

[quote=""lpetrich""] What can't be defined and modeled systemically? I must first ask: what is "systems theory"?[/QUOTE] The modern extension of cybernetics. Principle thinkers are probably ludwig bertelanffy, donnella meadows and Peter senge. It was given a philosophy ...

I write in cursive a lot.

[quote=""Koyaanisqatsi""] What can't be defined and modeled systemically? I guess that would hinge on what is doing the modeling as opposed to what is merely experiencing the model.[/QUOTE] That's sort of among the general points that make philosophy relevant at all. Unless, I su...

Goddamn rwnj's are fucked in the head.

Eta: that is an objective fact

What can't be defined and modeled systemically?

Is this how you justify bigotry?

Microsoft: no fair!
*shoves Netscape behind a rock*

Systems. I am reading a book by Ervin Laszlo called "introduction to systems philosophy" which, though dated to some degree, is brilliant in a lot of ways.

This is kind of an excellent thread.

[quote=""Michel""]Hello friends. As a newcomer, I have a question for you. Some years ago, someone sent me a link to an Intelligent Design video that said that, the chances for the universe to be in such a way that life can exist, is one in a number so big that it would require 5...

Ludicrous as it is, that is the central point of the entire New Testament.

It's also the least important part from the perspective of Jesus's teachings. Seems kind of odd to me.

I am always leery of overgeneralizing, especially in the context of a country as big as Russia, but it seems fair to say that the mafia is at least a significant element of Russian life.

As brer rabbit said, don't throw me in the briar patch

Tolstoy had some chops but it's just silly to place him on the same level as Vonnegut

[quote=""praxis""]American businesses and politicians took advantage of Yeltsin's kindness and trust and began to rape and pillage the country, I believe that's when Putin stepped in and closed the door to protect his country and its people. As for all the NATO bullshit, I think ...

Pretty sure they're wrong on this one. Although I suppose if I was drunk...

Funny how it doesn't seem to occur to him that the shoe could be on the other foot someday.

Heh. Got one chuckle anyway.

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